So which is the Open Championship's greatest opening hole, the best around the turn, or indeed the finest finishing hole?
The question has been answered as HSBC, celebrating its first year as Patron of the Open Championship, have taken up the debate by asking Padraig Harrington and Colin Montgomerie, to create a course of the finest holes in the Open Championship golf, "The HSBC Ultimate Open 18".
The brief was to produce an 18 hole Open Championship course, using holes from the nine courses on the current Open rota. This wasn't about creating a list of the best holes, it was a matter of selecting holes from Championship courses, taking into account the length and par and maintaining the hole numbers so that they correspond to those actually played at each of the courses during The Open.
BBC's Andrew Cotter kept order over the debate, and over time, the HSBC Ultimate Open 18 was decided. The final HSBC Ultimate Open 18 course they agreed on is certainly a challenge. At 7,264 yards, it's similar to this year's Open course at Royal St George's, Sandwich.
Many would wonder what the course would be like to play. Well, they would be in luck, because Sports Coach Systems were commissioned to produce the full HSBC Ultimate 18 course which was launched on the 4th July.
The full 18 holes are as follows:
1) St Andrews (Burn) 376yd par 4
2) Royal Birkdale (The 2nd) 421yd par 4
3) Carnoustie (Jockies Burn) 361yd par4
4) St Andrews (Ginger Beer) 450yd par 4
5) Carnoustie (Brae) 392yd par 4
6) Carnoustie (Hogans Alley) 512yd par 5
7) Royal Birkdale (the 7th) 177yd par 3
8) Royal Troon (Postage Stamp) 123yd par 3
9) Turberry (Bruce's Castle) 449yd par 4
10) Muirfield (the 10th) 475yd par 4
11) Royal Troon (Railway) 490yd par 4
12) Royal Birkdale (The 12th) 183 yd par 3
13) Royal Birkdale (the 13th) 498yd par 5
14) St Andrews (Long) 615yd par 5
15) Royal St George's (the 15th) 496yd par 4
16) Carnoustie (Barry Burn) 245yd par 3
17) St Andrews (Road) 495yd par 4
18) Muirfield (the 18th) 473yd par 4